The attorneys gave them bad advice, and when contacted the WT says we don't comment on specific cases. What a cop out!
Lost in the fog
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The attorneys gave us bad advice.
by Lost in the fog inthe attorneys gave them bad advice, and when contacted the wt says we don't comment on specific cases.
what a cop out!.
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20220521/jehovahs-witness-elders-who-failed-to-report-child-abuse-got-bad-advice-say-local-pastors-attorneys.
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Homeopathy and Jehovah's Witnesses.
by jojorabbit inyears ago, the jws did not like modern medicine.
vaccines and other things were all deemed bad.
this gave rise to a lot of jws getting into alternative medicines.
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The late Jan de Vries who was a UK protege of Dr Vogel said in an interview that Vogel's wife had been a Bible Student and later a Jehovah's Witness, but Dr Vogel was not. That's what he said.
I know a lot of people in my former cong who embraced homeopathy and wouldn't go to a general practitioner.
But as well as Vogel's medicines quite a number were taking Dr Bach's Flower Remedies until an elder who was into personal research (which also probably explains why he's no longer a JW) discovered that Dr Bach was a spiritualist who asked the spirits to identify which flowers went with which illness, and admitted that he never actually went near the flowers himself.
Lots of sisters were in a panic after he said it in a public talk one Sunday morning because they all swore by the stuff and had told everyone including their Bible student's to use it. I think they all rushed home from the meeting to bin their collection, and probably got the elders round to exorcise their houses in case of demonic entities hiding in their medicine cabinets in the bathroom. Lol.
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Missionaries in Mali.
by Lost in the fog ini don't think the gb at wt will pay for their release like the pope did for the nun.
they better say their goodbyes.. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2022-05-20/3-italians-1-togolese-abducted-in-southern-mali-says-mayor .
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I don't think the GB at WT will pay for their release like the Pope did for the nun. They better say their goodbyes.
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Jehovah's Witnesses: remembering the weird and wacky!
by Vanderhoven7 indo you remember some of the weird and wacky stuff emanating from the watchtower society?
let's make a list from memory that we can use to inject a little humor into our discussions with jehovah's witnesses.
- venus may be an enormous jurassic park.. - germs don't cause disease.. - no beards allowed.
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How about the the articles that dancing the Twist was as bad as performing a Ba'al worship fertility dance! Lol. Took me a while to find it.
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TIME MAGAZINE -Cult article - singles out Judge Rutherford
by Terry inhttps://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,738983,00.html.
big, blue-eyed judge joseph frederick rutherford, 60, lives in a ten-room spanish mansion, no.
4440 braeburn road.
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I can remember my mom telling me that at the 1950 Yankee Stadium assembly the speaker (I can't remember who it was now) saying "What would you say if I told you that we have princes here among us today!?" that a sizeable amount of the audience rushed forward to the edge of the stands to peer down into the baseball diamond expecting to see the ancient worthies resurrected there in front of their eyes.
You think "were they really that gullible or stupid?" and the answer is yes, because it's what their leadership had been telling them for the previous 25+ years.
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Praying for the Government.
by Lost in the fog ini was thinking about the fact that this year marks queen elizabeth ii having given 70 years of service to the british people.. "i therefore exhort, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, offerings of thanks, be made concerning all sorts of men, concerning kings and all those who are in high station; in order that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with full godly devotion and seriousness.”—1 timothy 2:1, 2.. can i ask, in all the years that you were attending jw meetings did you even once hear a prayer of any sort be made from the platform relating to the higher government authorities, especially the offering of thanks for them not clamping down on the organisation like other dictatorial countries?.
in all my years i don't know of one occasion where i heard a prayer in honour of the king (2 peter 2:17) or her majesty the queen.. another example of straying from what the bible actually said that christians should be doing..
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I was thinking about the fact that this year marks Queen Elizabeth II having given 70 years of service to the British people.
"I therefore exhort, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, offerings of thanks, be made concerning all sorts of men, concerning KINGS and all those who are in HIGH STATION; in order that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with full godly devotion and seriousness.”—1 Timothy 2:1, 2.
Can I ask, in all the years that you were attending JW meetings did you even once hear a prayer of any sort be made from the platform relating to the higher government authorities, especially the offering of thanks for them not clamping down on the organisation like other dictatorial countries?
In all my years I don't know of one occasion where I heard a prayer in honour of the King (2 Peter 2:17) or her Majesty the Queen.
Another example of straying from what the Bible actually said that Christians should be doing.
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Books I read when I deprogrammed
by OrphanCrow inblondie suggested someone start a thread with a list of books that are valuable to read when exiting the jws.. i will start.. i left the jws way back in the early 70s and didn't actually deprogram until into the 80s.. one of the first books i read was "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses" by gary and heather botting.
canadian exjws from calagary.
an excellent book and one that still resonates with young people today.
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By the way, books which weren't available for free 6 years ago are available now.
For example, Apocalypse Delayed, can be downloaded for free here -
https://www.pdfdrive.com/apocalypse-delayed-the-story-of-jehovahs-witnesses-d187552121.html
It's possible other books listed in this thread are also available on this site.
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Memorial invite
by JoenB75 innow they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.
it always makes me a bit sad.
i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.
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I remember in the old days when the Memorial ended our presiding servant would pour any wine left in the bottle down the drain or flush it down the loo on the principle that it had been blessed and prayed over so could not be treated as ordinary vino. (I never understood why he had no problems flushing such blessed wine down a toilet mind you.)
Nowadays I understand that all the undrunk wine is poured back into the bottle and returned to whoever bought it, so they can enjoy drinking it at home later in the week.
If you were ever on hall cleaning the weekend after a Memorial you usually would find the unleavened bread in the wastepaper basket behind the literature cabinet.
I told that to a friend who belongs to the Roman Catholic church and they were appalled - but that's because they go to the other extreme and believe that it is the actual flesh and blood of Jesus.
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Lies, Damn Lies.
by Lost in the fog inhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/jehovahs-witnesses-to-resume-in-person-services-opt-not-to-resume-door-to-door-ministry/ar-aavnxv0 .
so apparently robert hendricks the spin doctor of the wt society has been proudly telling news channels how wonderful the wt org has been during the 2 years of the pandemic, checking in with each and every member to meet their needs on a weekly basis.. except, based on the comments of former jw friends on facebook, it's news to most of them since they are screaming out that they were totally neglected by the elders/ms throughout most of that period.
a couple even said that because of being ignored by the congregation during this time, that they have walked away completely.
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So apparently Robert Hendricks the spin doctor of the WT society has been proudly telling news channels how wonderful the WT org has been during the 2 years of the pandemic, checking in with each and every member to meet their needs on a weekly basis.
Except, based on the comments of former JW friends on Facebook, it's news to most of them since they are screaming out that they were totally neglected by the elders/ms throughout most of that period. A couple even said that because of being ignored by the congregation during this time, that they have walked away completely.
But I guess the majority will feel that the eldership was too busy learning how to work Zoom that they didn't have the time to check on the flock.
I remember that the elders manual used to be called "Shepherd the Flock of God" - so I do wonder how many elders were ever trained in how to shepherd and told that it means long hours of work and actually involves contacting people?
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Minions - new Smurfs?
by Festus ina friend of mine told me that her witness relative from west coast had reacted to minions (child animation) in a same way that some jdubs reacted to smurfs.. aka she claimed that minions are "from satan".. has anyone else heard this?.
well i guess harry potter, lotr etc has received similar recption....nothing new in that sense..
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I have heard this critism of satanic minions among JWs here in the UK. Mind you it was from the same JW sister who used to quote the loony David Icke on her Facebook page, so a lot of the congregation would have given her ideas a wide berth anyway. Mind you David Icke's lunacy is no better or worse than that of the Watchtower's.